2024.01.12 – Dr Frans Cronje, Former CEO of the South African Institute of Race Relations (IRR) – Discussing his thoughts on the ICJ application by the South Africa government
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2024.01.12 - Dr Frans Cronje, Former CEO of the South African Institute of Race Relations (IRR) - Discussing his thoughts on the ICJ application by the South Africa government
Brilliant assessment Dr Cronje. Terrifying. I am an older South African, now in Australia,with my heart there still. I see my 50 year oldish kids feeling differently from me,and grandchildren more so…as he pointed out . What to do,I wonder ,I wonder indeed
South Africa is part of the Axis of Evil The world was warned by the South African white folk in the 1980s The luberalscwho fawned over Mandela and his gangsters had better head for the hills Iran North Korea Russia China are all coming for you next Europeans bedt close the borders yo Muslims as they will swamp you in your own countries
How sad that the world believes the Hamas lie! Even sadder that RSA is leading the charge! First the Saturday people then the Sunday people, we are heading for serious trouble!
As said many times SA is simply trying to be a big deal in Africa and by “launching” this ridiculous attack on Israel hoping to align itself with the Islamic fanatics because they think they will be the winners and then they can get a new source of money to borrow from seeing as the West has kicked them into touch….such idiocy
A brilliant analysis of a situation that the world does not want to acknowledge as of now ,but will live to regret in the future .There is a new force ,that of Islamic Extremism,at play and it,s ultimate goal ,which it announces openly ,is world domination.Israel and the Middle East first ,Europe second and the Greater West next .Beware !
In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
Wendy Machanik says:
January 13, 2024 at 6:36 .
In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
GOING PUBLIC WITH JEW HATRED BEING IRAN’S PROXY IN THE ICJ WON’T SAVE THE ANC IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. THE AVERAGE BLACK MAN IN THE STREET HAS NEVER EVER HEARD OF ISRAEL THEY WANT A JOB AND FOOD ON THEIR PLATE. THEY WOULD LIKE ELECTRICITY AND HEALTH CARE AND WATER BUT THEY KNOW THOSE CORRUPT ANC WILL NEVER PROVIDE IT.
This is absolutely ridiculous, and a deflection, trying to appear a hero on election year; not when we have farm murder rates at high rates, nor mentioned any ongoing of islamic massacre of christians by islamists, or murders of arab on arabs, including iranians on iranians, or syrians, etc Mr CR needs mind his own business till he can solve Eskkm, potholes, corruption from top to bottom, economy.. when he succeeded on those i will vote ( if i could) for him. . Till then he must mind his own business & fix his problems at home !!
Look at the positive input Israel has given the world. It is the only ray of light in the darkness of the Middle East. The world has lost its humanity.
KGB Agent many many years ago explained how they will do it.He told Americans illegal immigration of thie Satanic Islam will invade Europe and all Western countries. https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q?si=JhGuncexNrx8b5ED
SA government is a farce with no credibility. Its shameful what they are trying to do . I am appalled at SA. They are the ones calling for genocide of white farmers.
South African government must sweep in their own dirty cupboards and stay out of the world politics ..small idiotic peas who knows nothing of nothing..they just causing some more havoc in South African finance..if the Jewish Community pulls out of SA then our fat rich government is screwed.
Exactly what we/ Foxbat fought against in Angola ’75/ ’76 (and other years too).One Cuban Lt.caught told us THEN,( and with Putin as young officer) that the KGB is 15 years behind schedule for the takeover of ZA.That gave us then 60 years from then till now- and nogal with the help of the Leftist free world and Putins new Ukrain/Israel agenda( including his Terro-African States) to propell him into his new oversize Kingdom.So little in ZA realize that we forever resist a Communistic state instead of having a Black/White war
Depressingly this makes a lot of sense. The question I have for Dr Frans Cronje is whether it is too late for Israel to obtain equally effective advice to counter this terrifying strategy.
Depressingly this makes a lot of sense. The question I have for Dr Frans Cronje is whether it is too late for Israel to obtain equally effective advice to counter this terrifying strategy.
In a nutshell. Brilliant conversation to see the bigger picture how this war is being fight..ideoligical and physical and is going to expand and infiltrate the whole world order and it’s nations. I can just see how ALL BIBLE PROPHESIES are being fulfilled according to the nation of Israel and the Jewish Nation. Their only HOPE lies in the COMING OF CHRIST their MESSIAH, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.
Thank you very much Mr Cronje.
Israel should pull together in their spirituality, even the atheists.
It is their morality, ethics, steadfastness in their relationship with the land they live on and the God of Israel.
There are more people in the world who know the stories from the Bible and side wit Israel that way then the left and the Iranians and CCP expect.
It is their spirituality that will turn the tide.
The Application is antisemitic motivated and of no value as Israel is not signatories to ICJ, hence privy to the treaty that established that court. Even if Israel will not defend herself and a Judgement Is delivered against us it’s of no use as ICJ have no excution machinery and even if they had they don’t have jurisdiction against Israel. This one shall pass as well.
I cannot decide whether this is simplistic rubbish & you are crediting our Minister of Foreign Affairs with too much?
While the ANC get absolutely 10/10 for skulduggery, looking at the actions of the SA Minister of Foreign Affairs & the absurdly useless President Ramaphosa so far, it can only mean they are being led around by their noses by (no doubt) some country they are beholden to (take your pick…).
Everyone can put a million theories on the table, there are not enough hard facts about the SA government’s role to make this article credible.
We are not all young, bright-eyed students, Professor.
Frans Cronje brilliantly nailed the reality of this conflict and the role of South Africa as the vanguard.of the propaganda arm of the Islamist strategy. It also ties into global geopolitics in which the USA and the West are the ultimate targets. They’re already corrupted by the neoMarxist oppressor – victim doctrine in which the Palestinians are eternal victims no matter how they behave and the Jews and the West are the oppressors. We’re staring into the barrel of the gun and better wake up fast.
Wendy Machanik says:
January 13, 2024 at 6:37 pm
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Wendy Machanik says:
January 13, 2024 at 6:36 .
In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
The South African government led by the ANC has simply run out of internal options to garner support for the election and they are looking for support from those opposed to the policies of Israel.
I’m very glad that you mention 1948…..
That is the central issue.
The UN resolutions were not made in the air, they were not made for nothing. They were made for a reason and that reason has not changed since they were made.
While I am not in favour of the ” tactics” ,strategies and actions of the Palestinian forces, the Israeli army and government do have a
Iot to answer for and to account for.
While I am not naive enough to believe that the ANC idiots are not smart enough to fall into the alleged trap ???? they find themselves in, they are putting a case based on clear facts, on the ground evidence and the clear principles of international law to which the Americans and the Israeli governments sometimes pay lip service in the international arena.
The solution is not to enter into war to try to sort out the problems, many as there are, but to stop throwing hands/ creating, perpetrating and fostering war, but to sit at the table with a mediator and go to the beginning and negotiate the solution.
The thing is, the Israeli government does not want to go back to the beginning and visit the initial facts and first principles, because that is far too painful for them and it will mean it will be negotiating for it’s very existence.
That is a very painful thing to do….
The passage of time does not make what the UN and the Israeli government legitimate…..
but those issues are and have always been ” not up for discussion” and that stance has been defended by the Israeli people with war and destruction, supported by those who pump in financial aid and sell weapons to defend that very issue.
the answer is not war but negotiations .
the answer is not to persist with the deeply entrenched positions of each side….. but to negotiate in good faith.
coming to the table to negotiate means that there exists the possibility, that either side at the table,may be convinced of a solution which is contrary to the position they have held onto for many years.
What Scum the ANC are????????????Have never felt more ashamed of being South African‼️Best move we made was getting out of SA – broken & sad to leave family & beloved friends behind but needs be! I Cry for you South Africa????????????????
I gave the best years of my life, career and anti-apartheid sentiment to South Africa. Over 30 yrs of practising medicine with non racial, humanitarian and ethical principles which encompass autonomy, beneficence,maleficence and justice I am ashamed and heart broken that South Africa after all that the Jewish community has done for this country, are complicit with Iran and must be charged accordingly. My eldest Son, only 21 yrs of age, completing his military service in the IDF as a lone soldier can never return to the land of his birth knowing how anti-Semitic and anti- Israel South African policy dictates. We were a shining example to the whole world through Mandela that freedom and peace was achievable without a revolution bathed in blood unfortunately as we stand today it is crystal clear that our democracy is a failure and the bankrupt ruling party after it has stolen billions in taxes from its own people are still a terrorist organisation with links to Hamas and funded by Iran. I’m leaving to where I don’t know but there must be somewhere where my children can experience equal opportunity and be proud Jews with a bright future ahead.
If so, this is Les Saidel, I knew your parents well and was in the same class as Adi in Yeshiva College.
It was a interesting interview. I have been living in Israel for 38 years and if you are interested on the Israeli perspective on this whole thing, i would be glad to share it with you.
All the best and very nice to see this podcast. Keep up the good work.
Yesterdays Iranian driven farce by the SA deligation for the second time in my life had me feeling ashamed to be South African … the first time being when we elevated Zuma to president of the country…
A few weeks ago I sent out posts to my ‘ readers’ in which I adamantly mentioned that the ANC was being paid by Iran to take Israel to trial.
It seemed so obvious to me.
Buffoon Puppets of a dangerous puppeteer.
How convenient for a failed state to shift attention from it’s own crimes against it’s citizens.
How apt to take revenge for Israel’s assistance to the once apartheid government.
HOW EXPEDIENT TO GAIN MASSIVE FUNDING FOR IMMINENT ELECTIONEERING COSTS.
PERFECT TIMING TO ATTEMPT ‘HEROISM’ AND CLIMB ON THE BANDWAGON – IN AN ANTISEMITIC WORLD.
The most upsetting aspect of this decoy and waste of massive capital , is that the latter could have been used to help starving, jobless S.A. citizens…AND…the BLUFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED by the rest of the world, BEFORE Israel was taken to trial and thus waste HER intensely valuable time and effort in putting paid to evil, conniving terrorists .
Masses of world citizens, haven’t been duped!
So, if a simple person like me could see the ‘ writing on the wall’ at the outset of this circus…why couldn’t all those involved at the Hague bring to light the A . N . C ‘s ulterior motives and bring them to accountability ?
South African forces in the apartheid era were trained by the IDF. The Apartheid Government received a lot of support from Israel and Vorster called them out as an apartheid state.
Thd tragedy here is that both Israel and Hamas are causing genocidal impacts. There’s no easy solution.
Good comments and so true BUT we are praying for the ANC to fall in the hole it dug for Isreal,but the ANC will fall in that hole . It is absolutely shocking that our govt has done this . God is not mocked Israel will prevail
This discussion is the most enlightening and explanatory I have had the privilege to have heard about this war.
Which brings to me the RSA scenario of
“ black loyalty “ in the face of destructive actions and decisions by most of our current scum of government officials. Why can’t the opposition parties bring the truth of the current dilemmas to our population in the 11 official languages of our country. This message will have an enormous ideological effect on the greater population who don’t bother to listen to the “white “ languages of English and Afrikaans.
Cricket SA should be ashamed of themselves but the whole world has lost their minds. It’s like nobody in top positions can think clearly nor rationally.
Dis hoekom ons, as Christene in R.S.A., Israel heelhartig MOET ondersteun in hul optrede teen die Sataniese aanvalle van Hamas, (L.W.! nie die Palestyn bevolking nie, alhoewel in ‘n groot mate ook skuldig) Hesbollah, Iran, Irak, die Houthis in Yemen, ens.. Al hierdie bogenoemde Sataniese Islam groepe hou ‘n enorme gevaar in vir die hele Christenwerêld oor die die hele wêreld. Hamas en hullle meelopers moet deur Israel en al die Christenlande van die wêreld, van die aardbol af verwyder word na waar hulle hoort: Die Hel. Amen en Amen
Mandela was true to his colours while having Israels back he supported the Palestinian so to speak struggle.
Zuma couldnt care and managed cordial relations with Israel.
Ramaphosa is diabolical, lets hope that this is the last kick of a dying horse that the ANC will be relegated to opposition with a legacy of corruption, incompetence.
I believe that Ramaphosa has now totally got the US, Brittain and Germany’s backs up and they deal with him harshly. There will be a huge backlash from this ICJ action to the detriment of our economy.
ANC are bankrupt in every sense and have sold out to the highest bidder, Tehran who will undoubtedly bankroll their election campaign and pay for their votes with a T shirt, Cap, KFC and bus ride.
with so much respect and surprise . I can not leave that our South African black brothers n sisters are so short sited by not realizing the obvious reality about how the Jewish have contributed to the humanity and to the blacks movements and how Hamas have destroyed, the humanity n future of our dear Palestinian . If South African value the life’s of Palestinian , they should stay on The side of the truth . The poor Palestinian have been miss directed and miss guided enoght . That is the reason they are a lost national.
The South African government is looking for a distraction from its ruination of the most beautiful country and people. They have destroyed the opportunity of a lifetime in the name of racism, corruption, ignorance and theft. Literally plundered the country. The best thing about this move is that when they lose this case – and they will they will be even more irrelevant than they are today. But don’t worry when they have totally screwed the country up they will still be able to blame the last remaining whites and apartheid. What a shameful bunch of self serving savages who dont care about Palestinians at all. The SA government is dancing on the graves of dead Palestinians for their own benefit. What they should be doing is calling on Hamas to do the right thing. Surrender and hand back hostages
The South African government is looking for a distraction from its ruination of the most beautiful country and people. They have destroyed the opportunity of a lifetime in the name of racism, corruption, ignorance and theft. The best thing about this move is that when they lose this case – and they will they will be even more irrelevant than they are today. But don’t worry when they have totally screwed the country up they will still be able to blame the last remaining whites and apartheid. What a shameful bunch of self serving savages who dont care about Palestinians at all. The SA government is dancing on the graves of dead Palestinians for their own benefit. What they should be doing is calling on Hamas to do the right thing. Surrender and hand back hostages
Great interview. I don’t agree that the ICJ submission was good at all. I do however agree that it’s irrelevant as the truth does not matter in practically every sphere of public discourse. Not only does the truth not matter but people are less interested in the truth and more interested in dialogue and content that validates their views thus creating the illusion of fact in the mind of the ill informed. Terms like apartheid state, genocide, colonialism, occupation, theft of land etc are patently false but if reinforced in sufficient regularity start to take hold.
Could not fault one word in this interview. Encapsulates everything in a nutshell. One incredibly sad aspect is that some young Jews have themselves become brainwashed in American universities and this has spilled over to other countries in the West.
30000 Hamas combattents is an externencial thread to the Apartheid State of Israel with its army, navy and airforce with tanks and dropping 30000 tons killing 26000 unarmed civilians mostly woman and children in an open air prison called Gaza by bombing schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, refugee kamps, etc. Common guys. You must have a low IQ believing Israel has the most moral army in the world. Would love to send this to Dr. Cronje as well.
Please stop generalizing by saying “The South African ‘s”, When it is the ANC and other Socialist Political Parties which are the instigators here. Not ALL of SA agree with our ruling party..
This is a frightening comment and the content needs to go worldwide! Dr Cronje has had experience with dealing with the SA govern and knows his subject. Be aware thet Western World!!!
The corrupt ANC do not care about Palestinian lives, just as they don’t care about South african lives. This is simply a ploy to gain Muslim votes in the elections. Paid for by their terrorist partners Iran
The ANC government are indeed the useful idiots. I am sure that the President and his Cabinet are not the people they pretend to be in terms of Christianship. They are false prophets , acting in one way but bribed into another view.
I’m so reminded of the “Lord of the flies” and the sound of the mob baying “Kill the pig”. The veneer of civilisation is extremely thin and all decent people need to stand up.
This statement by Dr Frans Cronje is a valuable warning about what the ANC is doing. Thank goodness for this warning now we don’t have to bump around in the dark. Now I know how to stand up verbally to this and onslaught. Where do I put my energies to fight it at the age of 83 but with still plenty of capacity to work!
In other words, Israel is expected to let itself be destroyed by Hamas, Hezbollah and any other Islamist organisation.
I hope countries of the West realize that Israel is fighting this war not just for it’s survival but also that of western civilisation.
Very interesting insights. For me it’s tragic that Israeli soldiers are dying so young in their 20s, while their counterparts are running around freely and safely protesting around the world. Thank you, Dr Cronje.
Brilliant discussion and extremely disturbing …
Purpose of case is to associate Israel with genocide and brain wash the world …
Thank you such a sad conversation to have and also revealing the bigger picture here with Iran of course pulling all the strings
I thank God for your bravery Dr Cronje. Whoever opposes the ANC narrative will be a marked person.
I sent an email to an address I was told was Bibi’s office. Israel did not respond in Court to this hypocracy of Ramaphosa or the ANC. The arrogance of ANC to pontificate to Israel. He goes overseas telling all, that there are no farm murders in SA. It took a journo from UK ( because ours sit on their hands) to come out & expose all massacres of farmers, families & some farm workers ( also attacked)
On You Tube: search “The Killing Fields” by Katie Hopkins. Interviews with survivors ( some with disfiguring injuries) Pictures of the mayhem that took place in their homes. Savages! Excellent journalism.
Putin got to hear about the SA farmers’ plight & has invited them to settle in Russia, promising them safety.
What about our food supply? Only the rich will afford imported food at the reduced value of the ZAR through corruption which in SA is a national sport. I’m 74 & not able to leave. Some of my friends have gone to US, UK & Holland. M
I thank God for your bravery Dr Cronje. Whoever opposes the ANC narrative will be a marked person.
I sent an email to an address I was told was Bibi Netanyahu’s office. Israel did not respond in Court to this hypocracy of Ramaphosa or the ANC. The arrogance of ANC to pontificate to Israel. He goes overseas telling all, that there are no farm murders in SA. It took a journo from UK ( because ours sit on their hands) to come out & expose all massacres of farmers, families & some farm workers ( also attacked)
On You Tube: search “The Killing Fields” by Katie Hopkins. Interviews with survivors ( some with disfiguring injuries) Pictures of the mayhem that took place in their homes. Savages! Excellent journalism.
Putin got to hear about the SA farmers’ plight & has invited them to settle in Russia, promising them safety.
What about our food supply? Only the rich will afford imported food at the reduced value of the ZAR through corruption which in SA is a national sport. I’m 74 & not able to leave. Some of my friends have gone to US, UK & Holland.
Lol what a load of rubbish. Tell him to read the room, stop giving speculation and lies just like the Israelis. Just like the Israelis he lies his way to believing this rubbish is all true
Rather be flat footed but defended by the Most High God than shrewdly playing the devil’s game only to have the hottest flames of hell reserved for the soul.
Why should Israel not be vulnerable. They unjustly stolen Palestinian land. They developed the apartheid state through deceipt, massacres and ethnic cleansing. Why should they not be made vulnerable. Why should Israel be allowed to exist? Is it extremism to resist occupation?
It’s nauseating to listen to this man because everything he accuses South Africa of in his rants is exactly what the Zionists do! Firstly, We need to separate Jews from Zionists! There are countless REAL TORAH JEWS who abhor SATANYAHU and his Zionist cronies! Many such Jews wholeheartedly support South Africas magnificent stance against the demonic Zionist cult . Remember that Zionists live by the TALMUD which is a satanic cult manual! Anyone that reads the Talmud will be sickened! These are godless people so it’s ridiculous when they claim to be gods chosen people! They are more like Satans chosen people! It’s not South Africa that is waking young Jews up to realise how insane it is to join the Zionist child killer army! More and more Young Jews are refusing to join due to the humanity, wisdom and intelligence which they have and their rebellion has been increasing in recent times! How about lifting the curtain so that your audience can take a peek at what’s going down in tel aviv against SATANYAHU! I guess you won’t because that’s the Zionist modus operandi! To control what the masses are or not exposed to in order to steer public opinion in their favour! But thanks to South Africa and all those who support peace and justice over genocide, the curtain is lifted! There are huge protests taking place against SATANYAHU! The people in tel aviv want him OUT! I have so much more to say in response to the hogwash in this interview but it would probably take over 80 pages like South Africa’s solid case at the ICJ ????✌️May The Almighty grant victory to the Palestinians who have the support of MOST of the worlds population! Lots of love and we pray for peace and justice in our beautiful world.
South African Church of Christ arise against this ideological strategic war.
Africa stands for Israel, anyway if you don’t Elohim will always find another like UG.
The good news is Elohim stands for Israel
https://gulfbusiness.com/south-africa-the-halal-kingdom/
This article, published July 2012 is quite clear – and today, twelve years later,
billions are collected into the coffers of islam/plo etc . . . do the Zulu’s know
that their king pays tax to islam? Or the ZCC , Shembe and all the church members of
various indigenous church groups and all other Christ believing believers in
various denominations? This could well be the the funding body for the action against Israel . .
who knows ?
This man Frans Croje is an abomination and needs to hear some home truths from an intellectual non Zionist Jews.!I wonder if Cronje is in the pockets of Zionist Israel for the absolute demonising of Muslims, and indeed the South African government accusing them of colluding with Iran., croje is an example of entrenched white racist ,gaslighting anyone daring to criticise that which the UN, and Amnesty declared as an Apartheid State of ,Israel, by using the ridiculous anti semitism card.! Can some one educate this buffoon that
Zionism is not a religion
Zionism is not a race,
Zionism is a white supremacist fascist ideology, which we are all within our rights to criticise,and using that a/s race card makes him an A class ignorant idiot, given the white European Jews are not a semetic race but that of the European Khazar, it’s only the indigenous Palestinian Jews, Muslim and Christian have the semite DNA!
Might I point this reply ( below)to cronje by Andrew Feinstein, maybe the vile genocidal apologist Croje might learn some home truths!
Shame on Chai 5 to give this vermin a platform to spew his racist, and Islamophobic stance and all without a single ounce of evidence!
Can Croje note that the world applauded the South African legal team at the ICJ, except for the former white racist colonialist morally bankrupt countries, but even in those countries their ordinary people stand with Palestine!
He is a Nazi racist moron, supporting the killing of innocent people. The drip genocide has been ongoing for the last 75 years and has now become a mass slaughter. How can anyone in their right mind sleep at night while supporting such action? Only if you are a bloody racist.
We, unfortunately have a long way to go for as long as respected people like Dr Cronje are for such conspiracy theories.
We also have similar people, our own Folks who stupidly think that we don’t have the capacity to independently think outside of the borders of Party Political Ideologies and leadership Speech.
The Dr should opt for the alternative and the alternative is to preach the truth. As a beneficiary of the Apartheid Regime and Governance Systems, he knows the rights and the wrongs of stripping anyone off their dignity and rights.
It is unfortunate that the good Dr Cronje has been indoctrinated at a young age and he might need some assistance to shift from his wrong beliefs and the shared Analysis.
Any form of Crime against any Citizen/s of the World must be condemned by all of us as the common beneficiaries of the Earth.
This was done for BRICS. Why is everyone supporting the Jew when Mosad are doing this for the purpose to steal the new Gas supplies. You obviously don’t know about this and are so far off the mark you have no idea what’s going on. You just simply assuming. Regardless of your assumed ideological war. Do the people in Gaza not matter? So it’s quite apt that this is a good strategy against Israel. Islamic extremism ?That’s the propaganda you been brainwashed into. It’s about oil and Gas
Not on God’s watch the land given to Israel was given to them by God and has been the case for over 2000 years any people or country that tries to destroy Israel will themselves be destroyed. They are His special people. God hates evil and it will be destroyed. Hamas is evil even towards the Palestinians and uses them as human shields!! God does not sleep and He watches over Israel! He is still in control of the whole universe!…
Shockers- this governing party sold its soul a long time ago. I fear the truth will be so terrible for the people of South Africa, it will be decades to recover from the lies, corruption and negligence. The ANC lost their purpose in 1994, their replacement since then has been to rob and shame the people they duped. They are criminals who should be in front of a criminal court for the damage they have done.
Shalom,
I’m an expatriate American living in Tel Avivi, Israel since I made “Aliya” going up to Israel November 1,1999. I remember the Iraq-Kuwait war in my bomb shelter both Sadaam Husain 1 and two with his scud missiles. One actually entered a friend’s house. I remember Viêt Nam quite a lot as I was born in 1958.
Thanks for this brilliant analysis by Dr. Frans Conje Young Jews, money aid and South Africa’s “brilliant” case to The Hague on Israeli genocide are all able to contribute (with Iran’s proxy SouthAfrica), to our downfall.
Dr. Cronje is very good at explaining this.
None of RinA’s one niece and two nephews want to be combat warriors. And got out of serving in the IDF somehow like “I’m going to commit suicide “ by her 22 year old niece convinced an IDF psychiatrist and she didn’t have to serve. Another one just got into intelligence for the IDF.
I broke up with RinA about January 2024.
Why anyone would give that racist white supremacist a platform is beyond me. His entire diatribe was a pack of racist lies from word one.
EVERYONE with a concience who has seen the genocidal terrorism perpetrated by Israel has denounced it. The ONLY people supporting them are racists and antisemitic religious bigots…and US, UK, and some European politicians. Both you and he forget that every Palestinian, regardless of religion, is a semite, but most Israelis are descended from or are European jews and relatively few are semites.
They have deliberately murdered ~ 30 000 Palestininian civilians, ~ 40% of them children, yet that psychopathic racist doesn’t care and merely pushes long discredited apartheid era racist tropes.
I am from Jo’burg and have been living in Israel for 46 years. This is stuff that I am not have not been aware of.
It is 80 years since WW2 and the world has returned to the poison of the 1930s.
Jesus Christ!
How removed from South African history is Frans to think that he would regress to conspiracies!
How is this difficult to understand, Israel supported Apartheid. The very system that the ANC was fighting against.
The ANC OBVIOUSLY support ls Palestinians as they saw a common struggle with one another, JUST AS ISRAEL saw itself common with the Apartheid government!
South Africa followed a longtime policy to fight for Palestinians against a moral injustice, just as THE WHOLE WORLD fought for South Africa to end Apartheid!
To think that people would even entertain the rubbish Frans says here is unbelievable.
Frans is a STAUNCH Zionist. His opinions are OBVIOUSLY biased.
But for him to abandon all logic and resort to his Zionist delusions is a new look for him. What an absolute disappointment.
I assume you are going to issue an apology for this rubbish reporting after the ICJ ruling today. How can you provide a platform for this genocide defense? Where is your sense of shame? How can you justify your role in serving this anti-human agenda. Please seek to rediscover your humanity.
“Israel is doing the West a great favor…..After Israel, for Iran, is the West………The long-term attack on Israel the South Africans are fronting is much more dangerous than (Iran-fronted) Hamas’ and Hezbolla’s against Israel…….” (Dr. Frans Cronje)
One must surmise S.A. internal issues, political and economical must be rather severe, to turn to Iran as the proverbial “grabbing a straw” lest they drown.
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Brilliant assessment Dr Cronje. Terrifying. I am an older South African, now in Australia,with my heart there still. I see my 50 year oldish kids feeling differently from me,and grandchildren more so…as he pointed out . What to do,I wonder ,I wonder indeed
South Africa is part of the Axis of Evil The world was warned by the South African white folk in the 1980s The luberalscwho fawned over Mandela and his gangsters had better head for the hills Iran North Korea Russia China are all coming for you next Europeans bedt close the borders yo Muslims as they will swamp you in your own countries
How sad that the world believes the Hamas lie! Even sadder that RSA is leading the charge! First the Saturday people then the Sunday people, we are heading for serious trouble!
Excellent insights and thank you for publishing it.
As said many times SA is simply trying to be a big deal in Africa and by “launching” this ridiculous attack on Israel hoping to align itself with the Islamic fanatics because they think they will be the winners and then they can get a new source of money to borrow from seeing as the West has kicked them into touch….such idiocy
Much appreciated. I suspected Iranian involvment. Shalom from Israel.
A brilliant analysis of a situation that the world does not want to acknowledge as of now ,but will live to regret in the future .There is a new force ,that of Islamic Extremism,at play and it,s ultimate goal ,which it announces openly ,is world domination.Israel and the Middle East first ,Europe second and the Greater West next .Beware !
The ANC are not only dangerous to Israel and the West but to South Africa. They must be voted out!
An excellent analysis of how South Africa and Israel are being manipulated by Iran so it can complete it’s long-desitrfcatomic bomb unhindered.
In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
Wendy Machanik says:
January 13, 2024 at 6:36 .
In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
GOING PUBLIC WITH JEW HATRED BEING IRAN’S PROXY IN THE ICJ WON’T SAVE THE ANC IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. THE AVERAGE BLACK MAN IN THE STREET HAS NEVER EVER HEARD OF ISRAEL THEY WANT A JOB AND FOOD ON THEIR PLATE. THEY WOULD LIKE ELECTRICITY AND HEALTH CARE AND WATER BUT THEY KNOW THOSE CORRUPT ANC WILL NEVER PROVIDE IT.
This is absolutely ridiculous, and a deflection, trying to appear a hero on election year; not when we have farm murder rates at high rates, nor mentioned any ongoing of islamic massacre of christians by islamists, or murders of arab on arabs, including iranians on iranians, or syrians, etc Mr CR needs mind his own business till he can solve Eskkm, potholes, corruption from top to bottom, economy.. when he succeeded on those i will vote ( if i could) for him. . Till then he must mind his own business & fix his problems at home !!
Look at the positive input Israel has given the world. It is the only ray of light in the darkness of the Middle East. The world has lost its humanity.
Shocking !!!
But not entirely surprising !! How do we counter attack this ??
The ICJ Judges have a problem.
How many decenting?
Philosophy and Psychological games will outweigh fact and legal reason.
How many dissenting judgements against South Africa?
Bunch of thugs and criminals and the biggest all time hypocrites!
KGB Agent many many years ago explained how they will do it.He told Americans illegal immigration of thie Satanic Islam will invade Europe and all Western countries. https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q?si=JhGuncexNrx8b5ED
SA government is a farce with no credibility. Its shameful what they are trying to do . I am appalled at SA. They are the ones calling for genocide of white farmers.
Brilliant explanation. Shame on South Africa for being Iran’s useful idiot.
Be mindful that the anc isn’t Ramaphosa! The snake is Ronnie Kasrils
South African government must sweep in their own dirty cupboards and stay out of the world politics ..small idiotic peas who knows nothing of nothing..they just causing some more havoc in South African finance..if the Jewish Community pulls out of SA then our fat rich government is screwed.
Thank you for this insight
The question is What Can We Do?????
Exactly what we/ Foxbat fought against in Angola ’75/ ’76 (and other years too).One Cuban Lt.caught told us THEN,( and with Putin as young officer) that the KGB is 15 years behind schedule for the takeover of ZA.That gave us then 60 years from then till now- and nogal with the help of the Leftist free world and Putins new Ukrain/Israel agenda( including his Terro-African States) to propell him into his new oversize Kingdom.So little in ZA realize that we forever resist a Communistic state instead of having a Black/White war
Depressingly this makes a lot of sense. The question I have for Dr Frans Cronje is whether it is too late for Israel to obtain equally effective advice to counter this terrifying strategy.
Depressingly this makes a lot of sense. The question I have for Dr Frans Cronje is whether it is too late for Israel to obtain equally effective advice to counter this terrifying strategy.
Thank you. Illuminating and scary.
In a nutshell. Brilliant conversation to see the bigger picture how this war is being fight..ideoligical and physical and is going to expand and infiltrate the whole world order and it’s nations. I can just see how ALL BIBLE PROPHESIES are being fulfilled according to the nation of Israel and the Jewish Nation. Their only HOPE lies in the COMING OF CHRIST their MESSIAH, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.
Thank you very much Mr Cronje.
South Africa has fallen into G-ds Hand…let Your will be done Almighty G-d, You raise up kingdoms and bring down kings.
Israel should pull together in their spirituality, even the atheists.
It is their morality, ethics, steadfastness in their relationship with the land they live on and the God of Israel.
There are more people in the world who know the stories from the Bible and side wit Israel that way then the left and the Iranians and CCP expect.
It is their spirituality that will turn the tide.
The Application is antisemitic motivated and of no value as Israel is not signatories to ICJ, hence privy to the treaty that established that court. Even if Israel will not defend herself and a Judgement Is delivered against us it’s of no use as ICJ have no excution machinery and even if they had they don’t have jurisdiction against Israel. This one shall pass as well.
Yehudah Kahalani. Tanzania
I cannot decide whether this is simplistic rubbish & you are crediting our Minister of Foreign Affairs with too much?
While the ANC get absolutely 10/10 for skulduggery, looking at the actions of the SA Minister of Foreign Affairs & the absurdly useless President Ramaphosa so far, it can only mean they are being led around by their noses by (no doubt) some country they are beholden to (take your pick…).
Everyone can put a million theories on the table, there are not enough hard facts about the SA government’s role to make this article credible.
We are not all young, bright-eyed students, Professor.
Frans Cronje brilliantly nailed the reality of this conflict and the role of South Africa as the vanguard.of the propaganda arm of the Islamist strategy. It also ties into global geopolitics in which the USA and the West are the ultimate targets. They’re already corrupted by the neoMarxist oppressor – victim doctrine in which the Palestinians are eternal victims no matter how they behave and the Jews and the West are the oppressors. We’re staring into the barrel of the gun and better wake up fast.
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In mine & public opinion – SA is Iran’s puppet (useful idiots) as commonly termed, being paid billions to open this case – sadly as we all know the most of the ANC is all about their back-pockets !! They’ll do anything even sell their soles to the devil for money. This case also serves to distract from all the shortcomings of the ANC & build them up to the election – a very precarious & dangerous position
Very enlightening , most of us don’t have a clue about this until we hear about it and that is good for thought . Thankyou!
Please explain in more details about the comparison between Israel and Vietnam
The South African government led by the ANC has simply run out of internal options to garner support for the election and they are looking for support from those opposed to the policies of Israel.
I’m very glad that you mention 1948…..
That is the central issue.
The UN resolutions were not made in the air, they were not made for nothing. They were made for a reason and that reason has not changed since they were made.
While I am not in favour of the ” tactics” ,strategies and actions of the Palestinian forces, the Israeli army and government do have a
Iot to answer for and to account for.
While I am not naive enough to believe that the ANC idiots are not smart enough to fall into the alleged trap ???? they find themselves in, they are putting a case based on clear facts, on the ground evidence and the clear principles of international law to which the Americans and the Israeli governments sometimes pay lip service in the international arena.
The solution is not to enter into war to try to sort out the problems, many as there are, but to stop throwing hands/ creating, perpetrating and fostering war, but to sit at the table with a mediator and go to the beginning and negotiate the solution.
The thing is, the Israeli government does not want to go back to the beginning and visit the initial facts and first principles, because that is far too painful for them and it will mean it will be negotiating for it’s very existence.
That is a very painful thing to do….
The passage of time does not make what the UN and the Israeli government legitimate…..
but those issues are and have always been ” not up for discussion” and that stance has been defended by the Israeli people with war and destruction, supported by those who pump in financial aid and sell weapons to defend that very issue.
the answer is not war but negotiations .
the answer is not to persist with the deeply entrenched positions of each side….. but to negotiate in good faith.
coming to the table to negotiate means that there exists the possibility, that either side at the table,may be convinced of a solution which is contrary to the position they have held onto for many years.
a few spelling errors and words left out, they are easy to include as you go along….
What Scum the ANC are????????????Have never felt more ashamed of being South African‼️Best move we made was getting out of SA – broken & sad to leave family & beloved friends behind but needs be! I Cry for you South Africa????????????????
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I gave the best years of my life, career and anti-apartheid sentiment to South Africa. Over 30 yrs of practising medicine with non racial, humanitarian and ethical principles which encompass autonomy, beneficence,maleficence and justice I am ashamed and heart broken that South Africa after all that the Jewish community has done for this country, are complicit with Iran and must be charged accordingly. My eldest Son, only 21 yrs of age, completing his military service in the IDF as a lone soldier can never return to the land of his birth knowing how anti-Semitic and anti- Israel South African policy dictates. We were a shining example to the whole world through Mandela that freedom and peace was achievable without a revolution bathed in blood unfortunately as we stand today it is crystal clear that our democracy is a failure and the bankrupt ruling party after it has stolen billions in taxes from its own people are still a terrorist organisation with links to Hamas and funded by Iran. I’m leaving to where I don’t know but there must be somewhere where my children can experience equal opportunity and be proud Jews with a bright future ahead.
Howzit Howard
Are you Cocky and Cookie Feldman’s son?
If so, this is Les Saidel, I knew your parents well and was in the same class as Adi in Yeshiva College.
It was a interesting interview. I have been living in Israel for 38 years and if you are interested on the Israeli perspective on this whole thing, i would be glad to share it with you.
All the best and very nice to see this podcast. Keep up the good work.
Yesterdays Iranian driven farce by the SA deligation for the second time in my life had me feeling ashamed to be South African … the first time being when we elevated Zuma to president of the country…
Brilliant accurate and dangerous analysis. The intellectuals need to open their eyes to see the power of Iran/Isis propaganda.
A few weeks ago I sent out posts to my ‘ readers’ in which I adamantly mentioned that the ANC was being paid by Iran to take Israel to trial.
It seemed so obvious to me.
Buffoon Puppets of a dangerous puppeteer.
How convenient for a failed state to shift attention from it’s own crimes against it’s citizens.
How apt to take revenge for Israel’s assistance to the once apartheid government.
HOW EXPEDIENT TO GAIN MASSIVE FUNDING FOR IMMINENT ELECTIONEERING COSTS.
PERFECT TIMING TO ATTEMPT ‘HEROISM’ AND CLIMB ON THE BANDWAGON – IN AN ANTISEMITIC WORLD.
The most upsetting aspect of this decoy and waste of massive capital , is that the latter could have been used to help starving, jobless S.A. citizens…AND…the BLUFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED by the rest of the world, BEFORE Israel was taken to trial and thus waste HER intensely valuable time and effort in putting paid to evil, conniving terrorists .
Masses of world citizens, haven’t been duped!
So, if a simple person like me could see the ‘ writing on the wall’ at the outset of this circus…why couldn’t all those involved at the Hague bring to light the A . N . C ‘s ulterior motives and bring them to accountability ?
South African forces in the apartheid era were trained by the IDF. The Apartheid Government received a lot of support from Israel and Vorster called them out as an apartheid state.
Thd tragedy here is that both Israel and Hamas are causing genocidal impacts. There’s no easy solution.
Good comments and so true BUT we are praying for the ANC to fall in the hole it dug for Isreal,but the ANC will fall in that hole . It is absolutely shocking that our govt has done this . God is not mocked Israel will prevail
Excellent analysis.
I hope that Western Cape Christians take note, apply basic your RIGHT X in 2024, #DA
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Shocking truth! God help South Africa.
WE are for Israel. God bless her. The ANC government will be punished in the long run. Assisting terrorists
God help South Africa! Let the Remnant Continue to Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and for the State of Israel
https://youtu.be/Pk_HhlS7u00?si=RXN2Qmy6hpAaL3rZ
Look the Hamas Massacre on October 7th, 2023. Hamas committed crimes against humanity, against civilians, babies, elderlies, women and men.
This discussion is the most enlightening and explanatory I have had the privilege to have heard about this war.
Which brings to me the RSA scenario of
“ black loyalty “ in the face of destructive actions and decisions by most of our current scum of government officials. Why can’t the opposition parties bring the truth of the current dilemmas to our population in the 11 official languages of our country. This message will have an enormous ideological effect on the greater population who don’t bother to listen to the “white “ languages of English and Afrikaans.
We always hear Iran this and Iran that! Why is the world not confronting them in a serious way?
Cricket SA should be ashamed of themselves but the whole world has lost their minds. It’s like nobody in top positions can think clearly nor rationally.
Dis hoekom ons, as Christene in R.S.A., Israel heelhartig MOET ondersteun in hul optrede teen die Sataniese aanvalle van Hamas, (L.W.! nie die Palestyn bevolking nie, alhoewel in ‘n groot mate ook skuldig) Hesbollah, Iran, Irak, die Houthis in Yemen, ens.. Al hierdie bogenoemde Sataniese Islam groepe hou ‘n enorme gevaar in vir die hele Christenwerêld oor die die hele wêreld. Hamas en hullle meelopers moet deur Israel en al die Christenlande van die wêreld, van die aardbol af verwyder word na waar hulle hoort: Die Hel. Amen en Amen
Mandela was true to his colours while having Israels back he supported the Palestinian so to speak struggle.
Zuma couldnt care and managed cordial relations with Israel.
Ramaphosa is diabolical, lets hope that this is the last kick of a dying horse that the ANC will be relegated to opposition with a legacy of corruption, incompetence.
I believe that Ramaphosa has now totally got the US, Brittain and Germany’s backs up and they deal with him harshly. There will be a huge backlash from this ICJ action to the detriment of our economy.
ANC are bankrupt in every sense and have sold out to the highest bidder, Tehran who will undoubtedly bankroll their election campaign and pay for their votes with a T shirt, Cap, KFC and bus ride.
with so much respect and surprise . I can not leave that our South African black brothers n sisters are so short sited by not realizing the obvious reality about how the Jewish have contributed to the humanity and to the blacks movements and how Hamas have destroyed, the humanity n future of our dear Palestinian . If South African value the life’s of Palestinian , they should stay on The side of the truth . The poor Palestinian have been miss directed and miss guided enoght . That is the reason they are a lost national.
The bankrupt ANC were paid to start this action and spearhead it
Insightful & terrifyingly real – we live in dark times…
The South African government is looking for a distraction from its ruination of the most beautiful country and people. They have destroyed the opportunity of a lifetime in the name of racism, corruption, ignorance and theft. Literally plundered the country. The best thing about this move is that when they lose this case – and they will they will be even more irrelevant than they are today. But don’t worry when they have totally screwed the country up they will still be able to blame the last remaining whites and apartheid. What a shameful bunch of self serving savages who dont care about Palestinians at all. The SA government is dancing on the graves of dead Palestinians for their own benefit. What they should be doing is calling on Hamas to do the right thing. Surrender and hand back hostages
The South African government is looking for a distraction from its ruination of the most beautiful country and people. They have destroyed the opportunity of a lifetime in the name of racism, corruption, ignorance and theft. The best thing about this move is that when they lose this case – and they will they will be even more irrelevant than they are today. But don’t worry when they have totally screwed the country up they will still be able to blame the last remaining whites and apartheid. What a shameful bunch of self serving savages who dont care about Palestinians at all. The SA government is dancing on the graves of dead Palestinians for their own benefit. What they should be doing is calling on Hamas to do the right thing. Surrender and hand back hostages
Indeed the “Irenian Idiot”, our Israeli wonderful to the ICJ should listen to it And use it to air the manipulation of the tribunal
Great interview. I don’t agree that the ICJ submission was good at all. I do however agree that it’s irrelevant as the truth does not matter in practically every sphere of public discourse. Not only does the truth not matter but people are less interested in the truth and more interested in dialogue and content that validates their views thus creating the illusion of fact in the mind of the ill informed. Terms like apartheid state, genocide, colonialism, occupation, theft of land etc are patently false but if reinforced in sufficient regularity start to take hold.
Could not fault one word in this interview. Encapsulates everything in a nutshell. One incredibly sad aspect is that some young Jews have themselves become brainwashed in American universities and this has spilled over to other countries in the West.
Waarom kla die ANC nie vir Rusland aan nie. Hulle het ‘n soewereine land binnegeval, kinders ontvoer en vermoor burgerlikes daagliks.
30000 Hamas combattents is an externencial thread to the Apartheid State of Israel with its army, navy and airforce with tanks and dropping 30000 tons killing 26000 unarmed civilians mostly woman and children in an open air prison called Gaza by bombing schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, refugee kamps, etc. Common guys. You must have a low IQ believing Israel has the most moral army in the world. Would love to send this to Dr. Cronje as well.
We have to stand AGAINST THE SOUTH AFRICAN PLANS????
Please stop generalizing by saying “The South African ‘s”, When it is the ANC and other Socialist Political Parties which are the instigators here. Not ALL of SA agree with our ruling party..
This is a frightening comment and the content needs to go worldwide! Dr Cronje has had experience with dealing with the SA govern and knows his subject. Be aware thet Western World!!!
The corrupt ANC do not care about Palestinian lives, just as they don’t care about South african lives. This is simply a ploy to gain Muslim votes in the elections. Paid for by their terrorist partners Iran
The ANC government are indeed the useful idiots. I am sure that the President and his Cabinet are not the people they pretend to be in terms of Christianship. They are false prophets , acting in one way but bribed into another view.
I’m so reminded of the “Lord of the flies” and the sound of the mob baying “Kill the pig”. The veneer of civilisation is extremely thin and all decent people need to stand up.
This statement by Dr Frans Cronje is a valuable warning about what the ANC is doing. Thank goodness for this warning now we don’t have to bump around in the dark. Now I know how to stand up verbally to this and onslaught. Where do I put my energies to fight it at the age of 83 but with still plenty of capacity to work!
In other words, Israel is expected to let itself be destroyed by Hamas, Hezbollah and any other Islamist organisation.
I hope countries of the West realize that Israel is fighting this war not just for it’s survival but also that of western civilisation.
S. A. IS IN A DISGRACEFUL STATE MAKES ONE ASHAMED!!
Very interesting insights. For me it’s tragic that Israeli soldiers are dying so young in their 20s, while their counterparts are running around freely and safely protesting around the world. Thank you, Dr Cronje.
Very well said! Yes. People are catching on to the ABC tactics against Israel
Brilliant discussion and extremely disturbing …
Purpose of case is to associate Israel with genocide and brain wash the world …
Thank you such a sad conversation to have and also revealing the bigger picture here with Iran of course pulling all the strings
Very disturbing and I think we should not underestimate the cunning of the ANC – I think I have been very complacent in my estimation of them!
I thank God for your bravery Dr Cronje. Whoever opposes the ANC narrative will be a marked person.
I sent an email to an address I was told was Bibi’s office. Israel did not respond in Court to this hypocracy of Ramaphosa or the ANC. The arrogance of ANC to pontificate to Israel. He goes overseas telling all, that there are no farm murders in SA. It took a journo from UK ( because ours sit on their hands) to come out & expose all massacres of farmers, families & some farm workers ( also attacked)
On You Tube: search “The Killing Fields” by Katie Hopkins. Interviews with survivors ( some with disfiguring injuries) Pictures of the mayhem that took place in their homes. Savages! Excellent journalism.
Putin got to hear about the SA farmers’ plight & has invited them to settle in Russia, promising them safety.
What about our food supply? Only the rich will afford imported food at the reduced value of the ZAR through corruption which in SA is a national sport. I’m 74 & not able to leave. Some of my friends have gone to US, UK & Holland. M
I thank God for your bravery Dr Cronje. Whoever opposes the ANC narrative will be a marked person.
I sent an email to an address I was told was Bibi Netanyahu’s office. Israel did not respond in Court to this hypocracy of Ramaphosa or the ANC. The arrogance of ANC to pontificate to Israel. He goes overseas telling all, that there are no farm murders in SA. It took a journo from UK ( because ours sit on their hands) to come out & expose all massacres of farmers, families & some farm workers ( also attacked)
On You Tube: search “The Killing Fields” by Katie Hopkins. Interviews with survivors ( some with disfiguring injuries) Pictures of the mayhem that took place in their homes. Savages! Excellent journalism.
Putin got to hear about the SA farmers’ plight & has invited them to settle in Russia, promising them safety.
What about our food supply? Only the rich will afford imported food at the reduced value of the ZAR through corruption which in SA is a national sport. I’m 74 & not able to leave. Some of my friends have gone to US, UK & Holland.
Lol what a load of rubbish. Tell him to read the room, stop giving speculation and lies just like the Israelis. Just like the Israelis he lies his way to believing this rubbish is all true
Rotten ANC!!????
Rather be flat footed but defended by the Most High God than shrewdly playing the devil’s game only to have the hottest flames of hell reserved for the soul.
Why should Israel not be vulnerable. They unjustly stolen Palestinian land. They developed the apartheid state through deceipt, massacres and ethnic cleansing. Why should they not be made vulnerable. Why should Israel be allowed to exist? Is it extremism to resist occupation?
It’s nauseating to listen to this man because everything he accuses South Africa of in his rants is exactly what the Zionists do! Firstly, We need to separate Jews from Zionists! There are countless REAL TORAH JEWS who abhor SATANYAHU and his Zionist cronies! Many such Jews wholeheartedly support South Africas magnificent stance against the demonic Zionist cult . Remember that Zionists live by the TALMUD which is a satanic cult manual! Anyone that reads the Talmud will be sickened! These are godless people so it’s ridiculous when they claim to be gods chosen people! They are more like Satans chosen people! It’s not South Africa that is waking young Jews up to realise how insane it is to join the Zionist child killer army! More and more Young Jews are refusing to join due to the humanity, wisdom and intelligence which they have and their rebellion has been increasing in recent times! How about lifting the curtain so that your audience can take a peek at what’s going down in tel aviv against SATANYAHU! I guess you won’t because that’s the Zionist modus operandi! To control what the masses are or not exposed to in order to steer public opinion in their favour! But thanks to South Africa and all those who support peace and justice over genocide, the curtain is lifted! There are huge protests taking place against SATANYAHU! The people in tel aviv want him OUT! I have so much more to say in response to the hogwash in this interview but it would probably take over 80 pages like South Africa’s solid case at the ICJ ????✌️May The Almighty grant victory to the Palestinians who have the support of MOST of the worlds population! Lots of love and we pray for peace and justice in our beautiful world.
South African Church of Christ arise against this ideological strategic war.
Africa stands for Israel, anyway if you don’t Elohim will always find another like UG.
The good news is Elohim stands for Israel
Absolutely frightening in its explanation
Absolute idiot
What a load of rubbish by both the guest and the presenter.
Very insightful.
Very important.
https://gulfbusiness.com/south-africa-the-halal-kingdom/
This article, published July 2012 is quite clear – and today, twelve years later,
billions are collected into the coffers of islam/plo etc . . . do the Zulu’s know
that their king pays tax to islam? Or the ZCC , Shembe and all the church members of
various indigenous church groups and all other Christ believing believers in
various denominations? This could well be the the funding body for the action against Israel . .
who knows ?
Israel, God’s chosen people, will survive and not perish; their victory is guaranteed. Maranatha!
This man Frans Croje is an abomination and needs to hear some home truths from an intellectual non Zionist Jews.!I wonder if Cronje is in the pockets of Zionist Israel for the absolute demonising of Muslims, and indeed the South African government accusing them of colluding with Iran., croje is an example of entrenched white racist ,gaslighting anyone daring to criticise that which the UN, and Amnesty declared as an Apartheid State of ,Israel, by using the ridiculous anti semitism card.! Can some one educate this buffoon that
Zionism is not a religion
Zionism is not a race,
Zionism is a white supremacist fascist ideology, which we are all within our rights to criticise,and using that a/s race card makes him an A class ignorant idiot, given the white European Jews are not a semetic race but that of the European Khazar, it’s only the indigenous Palestinian Jews, Muslim and Christian have the semite DNA!
Might I point this reply ( below)to cronje by Andrew Feinstein, maybe the vile genocidal apologist Croje might learn some home truths!
Shame on Chai 5 to give this vermin a platform to spew his racist, and Islamophobic stance and all without a single ounce of evidence!
Can Croje note that the world applauded the South African legal team at the ICJ, except for the former white racist colonialist morally bankrupt countries, but even in those countries their ordinary people stand with Palestine!
https://youtu.be/O6vvvC4RVuc?feature=shared
He is a Nazi racist moron, supporting the killing of innocent people. The drip genocide has been ongoing for the last 75 years and has now become a mass slaughter. How can anyone in their right mind sleep at night while supporting such action? Only if you are a bloody racist.
We, unfortunately have a long way to go for as long as respected people like Dr Cronje are for such conspiracy theories.
We also have similar people, our own Folks who stupidly think that we don’t have the capacity to independently think outside of the borders of Party Political Ideologies and leadership Speech.
The Dr should opt for the alternative and the alternative is to preach the truth. As a beneficiary of the Apartheid Regime and Governance Systems, he knows the rights and the wrongs of stripping anyone off their dignity and rights.
It is unfortunate that the good Dr Cronje has been indoctrinated at a young age and he might need some assistance to shift from his wrong beliefs and the shared Analysis.
Any form of Crime against any Citizen/s of the World must be condemned by all of us as the common beneficiaries of the Earth.
Jo Mboweni
This was done for BRICS. Why is everyone supporting the Jew when Mosad are doing this for the purpose to steal the new Gas supplies. You obviously don’t know about this and are so far off the mark you have no idea what’s going on. You just simply assuming. Regardless of your assumed ideological war. Do the people in Gaza not matter? So it’s quite apt that this is a good strategy against Israel. Islamic extremism ?That’s the propaganda you been brainwashed into. It’s about oil and Gas
Not on God’s watch the land given to Israel was given to them by God and has been the case for over 2000 years any people or country that tries to destroy Israel will themselves be destroyed. They are His special people. God hates evil and it will be destroyed. Hamas is evil even towards the Palestinians and uses them as human shields!! God does not sleep and He watches over Israel! He is still in control of the whole universe!…
Powerful interview. It makes sense now, why – i will pass this around.
Thank you for speaking out.
Anc hypocrisy…they don’t accept that their supporting ‘kill the boer’ songs and boere farm murders are genocide
Brave man!
Shockers- this governing party sold its soul a long time ago. I fear the truth will be so terrible for the people of South Africa, it will be decades to recover from the lies, corruption and negligence. The ANC lost their purpose in 1994, their replacement since then has been to rob and shame the people they duped. They are criminals who should be in front of a criminal court for the damage they have done.
I am sò disappointed in our RSA government for making the case against Israel. Shame on them for supporting terrorists
Shalom,
I’m an expatriate American living in Tel Avivi, Israel since I made “Aliya” going up to Israel November 1,1999. I remember the Iraq-Kuwait war in my bomb shelter both Sadaam Husain 1 and two with his scud missiles. One actually entered a friend’s house. I remember Viêt Nam quite a lot as I was born in 1958.
Thanks for this brilliant analysis by Dr. Frans Conje Young Jews, money aid and South Africa’s “brilliant” case to The Hague on Israeli genocide are all able to contribute (with Iran’s proxy SouthAfrica), to our downfall.
Dr. Cronje is very good at explaining this.
None of RinA’s one niece and two nephews want to be combat warriors. And got out of serving in the IDF somehow like “I’m going to commit suicide “ by her 22 year old niece convinced an IDF psychiatrist and she didn’t have to serve. Another one just got into intelligence for the IDF.
I broke up with RinA about January 2024.
Why anyone would give that racist white supremacist a platform is beyond me. His entire diatribe was a pack of racist lies from word one.
EVERYONE with a concience who has seen the genocidal terrorism perpetrated by Israel has denounced it. The ONLY people supporting them are racists and antisemitic religious bigots…and US, UK, and some European politicians. Both you and he forget that every Palestinian, regardless of religion, is a semite, but most Israelis are descended from or are European jews and relatively few are semites.
They have deliberately murdered ~ 30 000 Palestininian civilians, ~ 40% of them children, yet that psychopathic racist doesn’t care and merely pushes long discredited apartheid era racist tropes.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Brilliant analysis from a former South African now living in Israel. Thank you Dr Cronje
Rina
Grabs Cronje has hit nail on the head! Keep on telling it like it is
Ver alarming and insightful analysis
I am from Jo’burg and have been living in Israel for 46 years. This is stuff that I am not have not been aware of.
It is 80 years since WW2 and the world has returned to the poison of the 1930s.
Jesus Christ!
How removed from South African history is Frans to think that he would regress to conspiracies!
How is this difficult to understand, Israel supported Apartheid. The very system that the ANC was fighting against.
The ANC OBVIOUSLY support ls Palestinians as they saw a common struggle with one another, JUST AS ISRAEL saw itself common with the Apartheid government!
South Africa followed a longtime policy to fight for Palestinians against a moral injustice, just as THE WHOLE WORLD fought for South Africa to end Apartheid!
To think that people would even entertain the rubbish Frans says here is unbelievable.
Frans is a STAUNCH Zionist. His opinions are OBVIOUSLY biased.
But for him to abandon all logic and resort to his Zionist delusions is a new look for him. What an absolute disappointment.
I assume you are going to issue an apology for this rubbish reporting after the ICJ ruling today. How can you provide a platform for this genocide defense? Where is your sense of shame? How can you justify your role in serving this anti-human agenda. Please seek to rediscover your humanity.
Why
I heard this a while ago. Dr Frans Cronje’s report is as you say very scary and very real
“Israel is doing the West a great favor…..After Israel, for Iran, is the West………The long-term attack on Israel the South Africans are fronting is much more dangerous than (Iran-fronted) Hamas’ and Hezbolla’s against Israel…….” (Dr. Frans Cronje)
One must surmise S.A. internal issues, political and economical must be rather severe, to turn to Iran as the proverbial “grabbing a straw” lest they drown.
Thank you